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25-03-2009, 07:26 PM
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Whats this Phantom?
Hi, can anyone help out with an idea of what this Phantom is?, a 19 I think but the number on the back reads...
0800 or 0600 0610...hard to tell really...
engine number is 0C276209 Merc 2.4 EFI
relates to : Serial Number: 0C276209
Model Number: MER 1924412JH
Manufacturing Year: 1989
Description: 20 MID RH CLE GE
thanks guys, looks like a racer with that steering!...thoughts welcome, Cheers.
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25-03-2009, 07:49 PM
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Registered User
Country: UK
Occupation: IT Consultant
Boat name: G4, Missconduct
Boat make: DAC, Phantom 18
Engines: Mercury 280 ROS, Mercury 280 + S3000 electrics
Cruising area: Windermere & Barrow
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 67
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Quote:
Originally Posted by v8.
Hi, can anyone help out with an idea of what this Phantom is?, a 19 I think but the number on the back reads...
0800 or 0600 0610...hard to tell really...
engine number is 0C276209 Merc 2.4 EFI
relates to : Serial Number: 0C276209
Model Number: MER 1924412JH
Manufacturing Year: 1989
Description: 20 MID RH CLE GE
thanks guys, looks like a racer with that steering!...thoughts welcome, Cheers.
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Phantom 18. Got a 2.4 engine cowl at least. Wire and wing steering does indicate ex race boat.
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25-03-2009, 07:55 PM
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Thanks
Hi, thanks for that, 18ft, ok but she measures 19ft .. but was some 19's that length or style?, thanks anyways for the post up!
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25-03-2009, 07:59 PM
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Registered User
Country: UK
Occupation: IT Consultant
Boat name: G4, Missconduct
Boat make: DAC, Phantom 18
Engines: Mercury 280 ROS, Mercury 280 + S3000 electrics
Cruising area: Windermere & Barrow
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 67
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Brookp01
Phantom 18. Got a 2.4 engine cowl at least. Wire and wing steering does indicate ex race boat.
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The more I look at this boat it could very well be an ex Windermere Motor Boat Racing Club boat once called Fandango. Does it have a unusually small steering wheel and an aircraft style red covered toggle start switch? Odd questions I know but they were characteristics I remembered.
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25-03-2009, 08:02 PM
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Registered User
Country: UK
Occupation: IT Consultant
Boat name: G4, Missconduct
Boat make: DAC, Phantom 18
Engines: Mercury 280 ROS, Mercury 280 + S3000 electrics
Cruising area: Windermere & Barrow
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 67
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Quote:
Originally Posted by v8.
Hi, thanks for that, 18ft, ok but she measures 19ft .. but was some 19's that length or style?, thanks anyways for the post up!
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I believe the P18 is over 18.5ft. The P19 has a moulded windscreen and has a far more rounded deck at the rear around the engine well. My P18 looks identical to that one.
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25-03-2009, 08:06 PM
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Engines: V8
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Pic...
Hi, have this other pic with what i think i can see "Windermere " on the screen, dont know about wheel or switch, only have thses pics for now, looking like you do know of her then!, any info would be great on her, as looking to start basic racing and would love to know if it would be a good package?
thanks for any help
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25-03-2009, 08:25 PM
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Registered User
Country: UK
Occupation: IT Consultant
Boat name: G4, Missconduct
Boat make: DAC, Phantom 18
Engines: Mercury 280 ROS, Mercury 280 + S3000 electrics
Cruising area: Windermere & Barrow
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 67
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Quote:
Originally Posted by v8.
Hi, have this other pic with what i think i can see "Windermere " on the screen, dont know about wheel or switch, only have thses pics for now, looking like you do know of her then!, any info would be great on her, as looking to start basic racing and would love to know if it would be a good package?
thanks for any help
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Yes it does look like 'WMBRC' above and 'Windermere' below on the screen. If it is Fandango it seemed to drive well in handicapped club racing on Windermere. I'm unsure if it still has the same motor (wasn't a 2.4 EFI at that time) but it could run mid 70s to 80 mph. Not seen the boat for at least 6 years so unfortunately can't sensibly advise on the quality of the package.
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26-03-2009, 02:33 PM
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numbskull
Country: United Kingdom
Location: South
Occupation: none
Interests: none
Boat name: Leviathan
Boat make: Phantom 28
Cruising area: South Coast
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: South
Posts: 15,959
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Definitely a P18.
XL is 20' and as Brookp01 says, the deck is very different. XL also has the 'Phantom Pad'.
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26-03-2009, 02:42 PM
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Registered User
Country: England
Location: Manchester
Occupation: PM
Boat make: Phantom 18
Engines: Rude 150HO
Cruising area: Windermere/ Barrow
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Manchester
Posts: 230
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No doubt that that boat is Fandango. Good boat. Same as my 18, pretty light weight.
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26-03-2009, 02:48 PM
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Registered User
Country: Job Centre
Location: In a box
Occupation: Chaos's gofer
Interests: Skiving
Boat make: Spectre 30
Engines: 2 x Promax 225
Cruising area: In the bath
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: In a box
Posts: 5,201
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jon Fuller
XL also has the 'Phantom Pad'.
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Would that be similar to a Velocity pad?
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26-03-2009, 08:41 PM
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Thanks
Thanks for the replys,
...any idea's as to what she's worth guys?
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26-03-2009, 08:49 PM
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numbskull
Country: United Kingdom
Location: South
Occupation: none
Interests: none
Boat name: Leviathan
Boat make: Phantom 28
Cruising area: South Coast
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: South
Posts: 15,959
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tony Davis
Would that be similar to a Velocity pad?
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No, they don't appear to 'warp' into the forefoot on the velocity. Just like a old door nailed on the bottom.
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26-03-2009, 09:19 PM
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Like this?
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27-03-2009, 02:43 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 48
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Quote:
Originally Posted by v8.
Hi, thanks for that, 18ft, ok but she measures 19ft .. but was some 19's that length or style?, thanks anyways for the post up!
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The Phantom 21 measures 21ft 10in
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28-03-2009, 02:55 PM
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Country: UK
Boat make: Phantom21
Engines: Mercury 2.5 EFI O/S
Join Date: Feb 2008
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Quote:
Originally Posted by stormin177
The Phantom 21 measures 21ft 10in
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My genuine Phantom 21's RYA Measurement Certificate says the measured length is 6.46 metres, or 21ft 2.33 inches.
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28-03-2009, 08:34 PM
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numbskull
Country: United Kingdom
Location: South
Occupation: none
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Boat name: Leviathan
Boat make: Phantom 28
Cruising area: South Coast
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: South
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UIM measurement isn't LOA, it's from the bow (very tip) to the bottom of the transom on the centreline. so the extra length (I don't know the exact LOA of a P21) will be the transom angle (circa 13 degrees) leaning back up to the top of the transom. could be an extra 6" or so for the LOA figure above the UIM figure.
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28-03-2009, 08:49 PM
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Country: England
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If I am going of thread delete.
I remember back years ago when Nik Keyser and Eric Smillie needed to get their 19' Marshan measured, they towed the boat round to Tony Needell's house at the latest time of night.
Eric threw stones at Tony's bedroom window, he woke up, got dressed went downstairs and measured the boat.
I suspect Tiff slept soundly that night.
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30-03-2009, 10:18 AM
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Country: shropshire england.
Location: oswestry
Occupation: Retired
Interests: Yodelling
Boat name: Veni Vidi Vici or Conked
Boat make: G.P.14
Engines: 4h.p. Mercury
Cruising area: Cap de Agde
Join Date: Feb 2009
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Quote:
Originally Posted by v8.
Hi, can anyone help out with an idea of what this Phantom is?, a 19 I think but the number on the back reads...
0800 or 0600 0610...hard to tell really...
engine number is 0C276209 Merc 2.4 EFI
relates to : Serial Number: 0C276209
Model Number: MER 1924412JH
Manufacturing Year: 1989
Description: 20 MID RH CLE GE
thanks guys, looks like a racer with that steering!...thoughts welcome, Cheers.
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would have to see and run it first.
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